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But Drafting A Wide Receiver Has Worked So Well In The Past…

Beginning with Nate Burleson in the 3rd round of 2003, the Vikings have drafted 11 wide receivers in the last ten years. Just take a minute to review this who’s who of pass catchers:

Sidney showed flashes of talent in a Vikings uniform. That or Lord Favre is just really good at football.

Sidney showed flashes of talent in a Vikings uniform. That or Lord Favre was just really good at football.

  1. Nate Burleson
  2. Keenan Howry
  3. Troy Williamson
  4. Sidney Rice
  5. Aundrae Allison
  6. Chandler Williams
  7. Jaymar Johnson
  8. Percy Harvin
  9. Stephen Burton
  10. Jarius Wright
  11. Greg Childs                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Now, there is a name or three on that list (Burleson, Rice, and Harvin) who has made some noise in the league. Harvin is the only stud. Though, Burleson and Rice are a’ight. But, for each name on the a’ight list, there are three names who have made considerably more noise in the fast food industry slinging Big Macs.

As the 2013 NFL Draft approaches, the misinformation coming out of Winter Park is that the Vikings are considering nabbing a wide receiver with the 23rd or 25th pick of the first round. In one of the deeper wide receiver drafts, with no clear cut stud, and not exactly a stellar history of scouting wide receivers, spending a first round pick on a wide receiver might not be a prudent move.

Instead, this Vikings fan hopes that management targets one of the following guys (our range goes from Pipe Dream to Resigned Fate):

Pipe Dream

Dee Milliner (CB) – Look, it is called Pipe Dream for a reason!! Milliner is the kind of corner back that will have Vikings fans saying, “Antoine who?” He is a gritty player who is not afraid to mix it up. His closing speed and smarts are perfect for a corner playing in a zone defense like the Vikings Cover 2. And, even though character has never been a motivating factor for this organization…oh…hey Chris Cook…Milliner is a humble kid who leads by example. Even if it meant trading up to do it, we do have something like 32 draft picks in the last four rounds, landing this premiere corner back would be a great start to the draft for the Vikings.

Star represents a perfect fit for the Vikings with pick number 23. Top 5 talent who just needs a system where he can thrive. Kevin meet Star, Star this is Kevin.

Star represents a perfect fit for the Vikings with pick number 23. Top 5 talent who just needs a system where he can thrive. Kevin meet Star, Star this is Kevin.

Star Lotulelei (DT) – Remember, Pipe Dream people!? Most draftniks do not have Star dropping any lower than the high teens. However, his health might be just enough of a concern for him to slide to the Vikings at 23. He is a versatile play-maker that demands a double team in the interior. Learning from a seasoned vet like Kevin Williams, a player who’s game he emulates, would be a great start to his career. His upside is that he is a Pro-Bowl level players who could anchor this defense for the next 10 years.

Perfect Storm

Alec Ogletree (ILB) – The Vikings need a linebacker and Alec Ogletree is a dude. No getting around it. He fills a pressing need, the middle linebacker position, and he has the athleticism and skill to anchor the defense for years to come. He cut his chops in the SEC and presents a very low risk, high reward pick. Perhaps most importantly, Ogletree has the quickness to get to his drops in the Vikings Cover 2 system. That is something the Vikings have not had out of their middle linebacker since the early days of Ejay Henderson.

D.J. Hayden (CB) – The consolation prize in the Dee Milliner sweepstakes. Hayden is a play-maker. He has the ball skills to be an elite corner back in the league. He does not have the run-stopping, drop-you-like-a-rock hitting capability, but he can mix it up when he needs to. Considering he is slotted to go in the late teens early 20s, getting him with the 23rd pick would be a nice get. Considering the quarterbacks in our division, adding another weapon in the secondary could make taking that next step a reality.

Cordarelle Patterson (WR) – Fine, I could not resist. Here is your wide receiver. Cordarrelle has everything you could want in a wide receiver. He is big, strong, fast, and his hands are the size of has trash can lids. The knock on Cordarrelle is that he might struggle to spell C-A-T if you spotted him the C and the A. The NFL is a cerebral game. If he were a quarterback, an intelligence deficiency would be a problem. Joe Webb, get out of here. This is my column space. And, even though wide receivers do not need to be as cerebral as quarterbacks, they need to understand coverages so that they know which hot routes to run. The hope is that the Vikings, most importantly veteran free agent signing Greg Jennings, could teach him that. At least, that is the hope…

Resigned Fate

Sylvester Williams (DT) – This is the guy most “experts” have the Vikings selecting. He is a solid player. Oddly enough, the knock on him is his vertical. Evidently, he is not much of a leaper. Though, for a defensive tackle, I am not sure why that is a concern. And, even though he will turn 25 this season, he can contribute immediately and be a steady presence in the middle. He is probably never going to the Pro Bowl, but he will also not make plays that will hurt the team. Plus, like with Star, learning from a veteran like Kevin Williams will only help him in the long run.

Oh Manti. Just a riddle wrapped in an enigma battered in a mystery. The most famous cat-fish of all time. Kid has talent. But will he be able to move on and use it...

Oh Manti. Just a riddle wrapped in an enigma battered in a mystery. The most famous cat-fish of all time. Kid has talent. But will he be able to move on and use it…

Manti Te’o (ILB) – Alright, so here we are. Resigned fate territory. Manti is a hunyuck. Either because he got cat-fished on the national stage by a dude poorly pretending to be chick or he lied about a dead girlfriend to give his Heisman candidacy a boost. Either way, hunyuck. And, he looked brutal in the Alabama game, missing assignments and failing to fill the gaps up the middle. Though, in his defense, it was not like he had anything else on his mind. Te’o has incredible, you-cannot-teach-that instincts. Sure, he might be a bit slow for a middle linebacker, but speed can be gained with good workouts and smart angles. Instincts cannot. He fills an immediate need for the team and is surrounded by former teammates (Rudolph, Smith, and Sullivan) and that atmosphere might just help everyone forget about his little romantic kerfuffle. If Manti drops, there is a pretty good chance that the Vikings scoop him up with the 25th pick.

Kevin Minter (ILB) – This is the, “I guess that Manti thing was more serious than we thought” pick. In case you forgot, the Vikings need a middle linebacker. Minter led LSU’s defense for the past three years. Not a real vocal guy, he still manages to hold others accountable. Draftniks have called him a pro’s pro. He also is a step slow, but again, has great instincts. Plus, he honed those instincts in the SEC, so the increase in speed at the next level should not phase him. Could contribute immediately and has the upside to be an elite linebacker for years to come. If I have to go resigned fate, this is the guy I want.

With two picks in the first round, the Vikings need to fill some pressing holes (ILB, CB, DT, and…gulp…WR). Even though the heavy lifting usually comes in the later rounds, as the Vikings brass showed last year, if you can hit on two first round picks (Kalil and Smith), it can turn around your team right quick. Here is hoping they stick with that same winning formula.

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Remembering Perspective: Your Vikings Training Camp Update

Vikings 4th round pick, Greg Childs, suffered a potentially career ending knee(s?) injury on Saturday night. The play itself seemed relatively harmless. An off target back shoulder throw from back-up Sage Rosenfels that caused Childs to twist around to try and make a play. See it here.

As you can see, Childs was not blown up by one of the Vikings promising young safeties. Nor was he caught in an awkward spot trying to cut block all-Milky Way defensive end, Jared Allen. Instead, it was just a freaky play that resulted in Childs rupturing not one, but both, patella tendons. What is truly horrifying about this injury is that the patella tendons are what stabilize a knee for walking and running. Unlike your run-of-the-mill CL tears (that would be A, M, or P), where the player can still limp around, a ruptured patella tendon usually causes the recipient to lose stability in that limb. Rupturing both patella tendons has to be downright agony and frankly my knees hurt just thinking about it. Let’s scoot along.

The Vikings waived Childs and, provided he clears waivers, the Vikings will be able to place him on injured reserve. His recovery prognosis, if at all, its probably 18 months at a minimum. This was certainly a loss for the Vikings as the team was hopeful that Childs would realize some of the talent that had made him a speculative 1st round pick while at Arkansas. But, it is that hope, while maybe rational in small doses, that has overwhelmed the Childs injury.

Many Vikings fans took to the airwaves and comments section of local birdcage liners to express their angst regarding Childs’ injury. In fact, if you only read the fan base’s reaction, you might think Childs was already a three time Pro-Bowler.

Was he a good little player? Maybe. Did he have a shot to contribute to this squad and make an impact? Sure. Could he have been a perennial Pro-Bowler who would make Vikings fans forget about their favorite caterer bashing deep-threat? I suppose.  But, this is true for a lot of 4th round picks. The guys in the 4th round are usually there because they have first or second round talent but also have more baggage than Pamela Anderson.

Vikings fans need to remember this fact. Percy Harvin did not blow out his knees (you have my permission to find me and do terrible things to me if that last sentence ends up jinxing him), it was Greg Childs. Feel bad for the guy? Sure. Think that his absence is a loss? Absolutely. Act like the season is lost and we might as well start scouting next year’s first overall pick? Let’s just back the pessimism truck up a bit.

Even though losing Childs hurt, there are bigger issues that Vikings can legitimately worry about. For instance, there are accounts out there that Ponder has not looked sharp in camp. Fresh off a season in which he completed 54% of his passes, accounts like that are worrisome. And before you flood our inbox with hate mail, understand that I am a Ponder-supporter. I think he is a heady, athletic QB that could do really well in today’s NFL.  But, that said, I still believe Ponder needs to show us something this year. We went out and got him the franchise left tackle he was missing last year (welcome to the Twin Cities Mount Kalil). We shored up the line with solid veterans (Schwartz — though, he has his own injury issues). Plus, Ponder has additional weapons in Kyle Rudolph (flat-out Hoover) and (eventually) John Carlson to compliment Cheech and All Day.

I am far more worried about whether Ponder “takes the next step” (or better yet takes an Olympic-sized leap) than I am about the impact the unfortunate injury to Greg Childs will have on our offense. Might not eliminate the ulcer, Ponder’s evolution is still unknown and may be for sometime, but a little perspective helps focus the worry on the issues that matter most.

2012 NFL Draft: Act Three

The 2012 NFL Draft concluded in its traditional, ho-hum fashion. Because it is THE National Football League, the level of seriousness did not deviate and we as fans are led to believe that Round 7 is just as important as Round 1. The talking machine that is Mel McMortenson, Jr. tries to make the 6th round pick of cornerback Issiah Frey interesting, but, there is only so many ways to say, well, IF, everything works out, and I mean EVERYTHING (including the alignment of Mars with Saturn), this guy might be a serviceable NFL starter. All you need to do is look at our evaluation of the drafts for 2005 through 2011 to see that the “hit” rate in the later rounds is not very high. Even for a GM like TT who has his black belt in the NFL Draft.

Surprisingly both the Vikings and the Packers made some moves in Rounds 4 through 7. All the moves seemed to be based on sound logic, which is a nice departure for half of the BR rivalry. The following is BR’s review of each squad’s final push in the marathon that was the 2012 NFL Draft.

Minnesota Vikings

After taking the draft off on Friday, Schemin’ Spielman was back at it on Saturday. Who knows, maybe all the excitement of Round 1 wore him out for Rounds 2 and 3. And, maybe Josh Robinson, with a little coaching, will be the Vikes’ next great DB/PR. Though, missing out on Casey Hayward and Rueben Randle really could end up being Spielman’s only misstep in this year’s draft.

Going into Rounds 4 through 7, Schemin’ had a mittful of draft picks, including 3 in Round 4, 2 in Round 5, 1 in Round 6, and 3 in Round 7. 9 picks total. Schemin’ turned those 9 picks into the following: Arkansas’ WR corps (Jarius Wright and Greg Childs), Jim Kleinsasser 2.0 (Rhett Ellison), 2013 4th round pick, the rest of Notre Dame’s secondary (Robert Blanton), 2013 6th round pick, Audie Cole, Trevor Guyton, and Blair Walsh. Overall, a pretty good haul.

Wright and Childs are decent little receivers. There were two player available, defensive lineman Jared Crick and linebacker Ronnell Lewis, who might have been better talents. Plus, with Cheech Harvin firmly established as our team’s slot receiver, it is a little curious what role the Vikes envision for Wright. But, his talent is undeniable and both he and Childs could challenge for starting minutes this year.

Lewis is a Jimmy Kleinsasser-type FB/TE. He will do a little bit of everything and he will do it at 160%. Good teams need players like this. So, for a 4th round pick, this is solid value.

In the 5th round, Schemin’ got Detroit’s 2013 4th round pick because he found out they really wanted Tahir Whitehead. A solid trade. With one of the picks he stole from Cleveland, the Vikes drafted Robert Blanton. A versatile DB who will hopefully excel in nickel and dime packages and contribute on special teams. AGAIN, surprisingly sound logic in the 5th round.

In the 6th and 7th rounds, Schemin’ got an heir apparent for Ryan Longwell, Mr. Blair Walsh (kid has an absolute rocket leg – but – the mind of a hockey goalie on Prozac); another special teams All-Star, Audie Cole; and potential platoon mate for Brian Robison (essentially, he is really good at stopping the run), Trevor Guyton. While it is unlikely any of the players drafted in Rounds 4 through 7 will be Pro Bowlers, Schemin’ did a nice job of balancing the need for solid starters/reserves while filling the coffers for next year’s draft. We will do a complete recap later in the week, but, with Schemin’ at the helm, things are definitely looking up at Winter Park.

Green Bay Packers

The Packers continued to be operated by TT’s evil step-brother on day 3. How else do you explain him trading UP in the draft on three separate occasions?! Whatever got in to TT is a welcome change and appears to have landed some quality players to add to the roster that had few holes to fill.

With his two compensatory picks in round 4, the Packers selected DE/DT Mike Daniels from Iowa and Maine left-winger, I mean safety (thought Maine only played hockey up there) Jeron McMillian. Both players were unknown, but offer something the Packers need.

Starting with Daniels, he is undersized at only 6’0″ and 290 lbs. But, he is a quick, penetrating type DT/DE that should rotate in on passing situations. He is a hard worker and overachieving type player, the type of guy TT loves to draft. In his last two years at Iowa, he amassed 10 sacks from the DT position and was named to the second-team All Big-Ten, just behind the Packers 2nd round selection – Jerel Worthy. Although many casual draft fans may not know Daniels, it appears to be a solid selection, aimed at providing speed on the DL to get after the quarterback.

Jeron McMillian is a curious pick to say the least. Safety became a huge need when the Pack announced Nick Collins would not be returning. With only Peprah, Burnett, and Jennings on the depth chart, the Packers needed to provide additional competition. But, with numerous big-school players on the board, TT went back to the small-school route (remember, Collins was from Bethune-Cookman) to find a safety. There are few fans of this pick. McMillian is athletic enough, testing out as one of the fastest safeties at the combine. But, his stats are underwhelming against inferior competition. He evidently is a willing tackler in run support and has the range with his speed. Naysayers point to his propensity to jump on play-actions. From the get-go, he should be an immediate contributor on special teams and, with good coaching, should battle for the starting safety position opposite Burnett.

After these two picks, TT’s next scheduled selection was round 6. But, following his new M.O., TT traded up again with The Hoodie and reclaimed his original 5th round selection to select ILB Terrell Manning from N.C. State. Manning came out early, proclaiming he was ready. He’s 6’2″ and 237 lbs. and a solid rush defender. Manning is a physical presence that will fill out his frame more as he matures. He was graded out as a fourth-round projection, but fell to the fifth where TT jumped on him. Immediately, he will contribute on special teams and compete for added depth behind Mr. T-Rex, A.J. Hawk, and Bishop. If he had stayed in college for another season, he likely would have been drafted higher, making this selection a nice developmental pick that could pan out in the long-run.

With his remaining two supplemental selections in the 7th round, TT finally drafted two offensive players – OT Andrew Datko (Fla. St.) and QB B.J. Coleman (Tenn.-Chattanooga). As 7th round selections, I don’t have much hope for these two. But they present interesting projects. Datko was supposedly rated much higher heading in to his senior season. Injury issues led to his late selection. He’s a little soft, but at 6’6″ and 315 lbs., it’s definitely worth a 7th-round investment to find a backup tackle. Coleman initially started at the U. of Tennessee, but transferred when he was demoted. He is 6’3″ and 233 lbs. and has some prototypical QB skills that he should develop in MM’s QB school. Interestingly enough, he is represented by Bus Cook (you know, the agent for Mr. Brent Favre) and had been training with Brent leading up to the camp – meaning this is the first Packers backup QB he has mentored. (I have to admit I stole this line from twitter, but definitely worth it.)

Overall, TT had a great draft, adding starters, depth, and better overall team-speed on defense. Packers fans should be thrilled with this haul. One final note from this draft, according to the NFL Draft Trade Chart, TT trade-raped The Hoodie in the two deals with him. In the first deal with The Hoodie, where TT traded his 3rd and 5th round selections for the 62nd overall selection, the difference in value was plus-116.8. And in the second deal, TT received back his 5th round selection for a 6th and two 7th round picks, the difference in value was plus-11.7. Add in the plus-31 differential in the first trade up, and you can see why TT was preaching value with all three deals.

The fun of the draft is over. But, with great-to-solid selections by both BR squads, both fan bases have a newfound excitement heading into the offseason camps. Check back later in the week for a full NFC North breakdown to see how the local squads drafts stack up against the hated Bears and Motor City Kitties.